tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3533010775907799154.post6960507678946904028..comments2023-08-01T01:15:40.086-07:00Comments on Northwest History: Are We Losing Our History in the Digital Age?Larry Cebulahttp://www.blogger.com/profile/16798046652983001155noreply@blogger.comBlogger1125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3533010775907799154.post-29542345046291024562009-01-31T06:03:00.000-08:002009-01-31T06:03:00.000-08:00Ah damn, didn't see that mefi post. I have been ma...Ah damn, didn't see that mefi post. I have been making tentative enquiries just recently on this subject.<BR/><BR/>There's a site (no, not mine) that is, in my opinion, a cultural gem. It has closed up shop and the site owner (it's a blog, image heavy, by a mefite) is happy to keep hosting for a few years yet.<BR/><BR/>My idea was to try and arrange for some way for the site to be preserved and in discussions with a few relevant people (which included my citing that Brit Libray piece, incidentally a very lightweight treatment of this subject but I digress) I was disturbed to learn that it just isn't done. Oh, the Lib of Congress and the Aussie Nat Lib both do a bit of website preservation but is piecemeal really. Archive.org is inefficient and seemingly directionless, although I confess to not knowing too much about how decisions about what sites/parts of sites are archived not to mention the choice as to whether images are stored or not.<BR/><BR/>The Washington site you mention I haven't seen but I presume it's a good thing for the locality. But to my mind we either have to instigate some UN body to create and administer an international archive to which, say, countries or thematic groupings (art, science etc) can nominate a certain amount of data or websites or whatever every year.<BR/><BR/>We need science bloggers making recommendations about what science blogs or blog entries are worth keeping in some sort of central warehouse. Washington may be good for Washington, but a lot (the majority?) of web material is not bound or determined or defined geographically.<BR/><BR/>Alternatively 'we' need to agitate for charitable foundations to step in. Carnegie grants (or whatever...named pulled from arse as example) to establish artistic site preservation endowment or the somesuch.<BR/><BR/>As it stands we only really have archive.org's waybackmachine for the website material. That's just not good enough imho. The site that I want preserved is of significance on a couple of fronts that kind of destroys (partly) the argument that says that halfway operable waybackmachine samplings are ok. The site is going to be an exemplar in 5, 10, 50 years for just how blogging was able to progress and be elevated to the types of dedicated broadcast mediums that we both have -vs- the humble diary like beginnings of the blog as publication. It also has an invaluable collection of artistic images not available elsewhere on the web (true, some are in contravention of copyright but that's kind of a separate issue). So snippets of this blog as found on waybackmachine for instance are not going to demonstrate what a superlative site it was (is!). Yes, it's a special case (imho! yes of course, but I only use it - giornale nuovo - as an example) but it is a useful one because any systems put forward need to be established with the idea of how best/easiest it is to preserve the cream such as giornale. Any ideas for systems shouldn't be predicated on driftnet fishing criteria such as with the waybackmachine.<BR/>(sorry for rambling and any incoherence)peacayhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03997731249622552311noreply@blogger.com